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To all those thinking ps4 was going to run best console this decade sorry but i did tell you so....

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update
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So they changed two bad things, now they can start to work on the following issues:
Kinect and mic have to be enabled 24/7 + BS OS based on Windows (max 2 months after the release youll find the first trojans abusing the mic/cam). Furthermore, PRISM, anyone?
TVTVTVTV features that are not available anywhere outside of the US, yay
Region locked (games arent, but the consoles)
Cant change the HDD on your own, and Im not so sure if 500GB are really enough when you expect the console to work for several years (Microsoft said "a console for the next decade"). I think a lot of users will need more than 500GB over 10 years.
3GB of the 8GB RAM (which btw. is only DDR3, means its 60% slower than GDDR5) will be used for the OS only. That leaves only 5 for gaming (7 from 8 on the PS4, and its a faster RAM)
Rumored to have less GPU cores/shaders than the PS4
Too expensive (considering the PS4 offers the same + more - the disadvantages)

Im not a fan of either side (didnt have a PS3 or 360), but Microsoft simply fucked up for this console generation. No human being with a working brain will buy this console... Even 85% of the Americans seem to prefer the PS4. Xbox One gets most support (how could it be different) from the baguettes. 22.37%. GJ Microsoft!
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what a load of crap pulling at scraps now are we :)

enjoy watching xbox one sales hit the roof because nobody cares about the above
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Firetrap900 wrote:what a load of crap pulling at scraps now are we :)

enjoy watching xbox one sales hit the roof because nobody cares about the above
Ill wish everyone who buys it lot of fun with the Xbox One, but I really doubt that they are going to sell more than Sony this time. Except for the die hard fanboys, they lost a lot of trust. And as mentioned above, there are still tons of things that many people will care about.

Sony fanboys will buy the PS4 no matter what. MS fanboys will buy the Xbox One. But aside from these two groups, I still think that the PS4 is going to be way more popular. It simply offers more for less money... At least for now.
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stick to what you beleive if you want but the same was said about the ps3 having better hardware... this time next year remember that i told you this
Xbox one will sell more than PS4 nothing else matters


its not that im a fanboy its that i just like better games and the better games will follow the crowd simple as
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Firetrap900 wrote:stick to what you beleive if you want but the same was said about the ps3 having better hardware... this time next year remember that i told you this
You cant compare that at all.

The Xbox360 CPU was very different from the PS3 CPU which had an own unique design. Its more difficult for developers to work with that, so they chose to go the easier way and code their games for the 360 and then adjust it for the PS3.

This time both have a similiar CPU architecture, and both are very close to the PC. Hence they will more likely chose the more powerful hardware this time over the easier one, because there is probably no difference in the difficulty.

But Im kinda happy they changed at least 2 of the 5+ negative points, that will sell more Xbox consoles and its definitely better to have two companies fighting for customers than one ruling the market. Which would have clearly been Sony so far, now they will probably sell more consoles, but not with such a huge advantage. Which is good for the average customer.
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Ironhide wrote:
Firetrap900 wrote:stick to what you beleive if you want but the same was said about the ps3 having better hardware... this time next year remember that i told you this
You cant compare that at all.

The Xbox360 CPU was very different from the PS3 CPU which had an own unique design. Its more difficult for developers to work with that, so they chose to go the easier way and code their games for the 360 and then adjust it for the PS3.

This time both have a similiar CPU architecture, and both are very close to the PC. Hence they will more likely chose the more powerful hardware this time over the easier one, because there is probably no difference in the difficulty.

But Im kinda happy they changed at least 2 of the 5+ negative points, that will sell more Xbox consoles and its definitely better to have two companies fighting for customers than one ruling the market. Which would have clearly been Sony so far, now they will probably sell more consoles, but not with such a huge advantage. Which is good for the average customer.
i agree with you its better to have 2 compeating but there wont be a contest nobody will change over if its not better and the result will be yet again another decade of xbox domination. sony has to be better and better in away that matters to the console world because this stuff you said dosnt matter.

plus they fail on everything these days.... they cant even do an update
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There launch games suck also most of them are games that either A is coming on xbox aswell or B already out on PC
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ooooo and heres Ea shaping up now aswell

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/41 ... -reversal/

No more online passes :xD:
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Just poking my head here...

XBOX ONE is for sure not going to dominate the market. They even didn't dominate the market with last consolegeneration. Nintendo Wii sold more than the PS3 or XBOX360.

Nowadays media has a really big influence in our consume-culture. Due to the hype of the PS4 in the internet, many many gamers are switching. That is fact.

Further cause of the PRISM-related news, some of us are afraid of the 24/7 kinect.


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Sunny wrote:Just poking my head here...

XBOX ONE is for sure not going to dominate the market. They even didn't dominate the market with last consolegeneration. Nintendo Wii sold more than the PS3 or XBOX360.

Nowadays media has a really big influence in our consume-culture. Due to the hype of the PS4 in the internet, many many gamers are switching. That is fact.

Further cause of the PRISM-related news, some of us are afraid of the 24/7 kinect.


No hatin',just sayn' yo
wrong check your stats again and yes people bought a wii but people dont play the wii and wii u is being outsold by xbox 360 atm.

nobody is worried by the kinect it has to be connected but it can be turned off and paused
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Firetrap900 wrote:wrong check your stats again and yes people bought a wii but people dont play the wii and wii u is being outsold by xbox 360 atm.

nobody is worried by the kinect it has to be connected but it can be turned off and paused
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did you not read when i said you can turn the camera off or pause it?

Also comparing the wii u to the xbox 360 is necsesary whenever they bring out a console that cant even outsell a console that was brought out years ago is just pityfull i dont mean overall figures i mean at this present time xbox 360 is selling faster than wii u

The wii came out with an orignal idea which was interesting but whenever people played it they soon realised it was rather boring and because the games were shit this is why nobody and i mean nobody is buying wii u.

like it or not even if they had sucess with the wii in terms of console sales they have just undone all that by bringing wii u out. Nintendo ds is keeping nintendo afloat if it wasnt for that nintendo would be like sega

Not even my girlfriend wants it :lmao:
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I have to disagree with you, the kinect 24/7 has and will worry users for the pure fact that the recent news surrounding PRISM and in general from many countries including rumors of china and other Asian countries making use of the net to spy, I feel that this has effected their plans to have a 24/7 attached camera and microphone. They have said you can unplug it one you have "checked-in" a phrase that honestly does live up to the recent news that they want to check on you. Saying nobody is worried/concerned about the camera constantly online is completely untrue as I myself never bought the 360Kinect for that pure reason that on a games console it isn't needed, what do you actually use the kinect for? What is the purpose of it being on a handheld controller console?

Secondly this Wii development, personally I feel that the Wii is a brilliant console along with the recently updated Wii U, the quality of this console is to the same degree if not higher than any other console I own (both PS3 and Xbox360). The Wii U is actually under the same category as the PlayStation or Xbox as an "underground gaming console"- Quote taken directly from the exposure of the Wii U and I would have to agree this console does perform to a high quality and specification of gaming and I am yet to fins any fault with it other than it doesn't play the older generation games however the Wii console does so I can still play my old games.

The Wii is seen however as a family console and therefore I wouldn't agree with comparing the sales with the Xbox360 directly, I would however suggest that the 360Kinect was also deemed a family add-on to the Xbox360 and that was much much later and was far outsold by the Wii. Also if I am correct the Wii successfully added the motion sensor element to their consoles and touch screen controllers and lets be honest if your talking about the most innovated consoles Nintendo would win hands down, so I really don't think there is any reason to put this company into any Ps4/xboxone debate what so ever. Also the quality of their exclusive content games like Zelda, Mario and as we all know Pokemon. These games have run for so long and are still enjoyed by all ages.

Personally I will not be buying either console, I will be buying them both and will compare their differences from experience however I do currently favor the PS4 from the Xboxone from all the points iron pointed out and more.

However PC still beats them all.
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People bought the Wii but didnt use it? Dafuq did I just read. The 100 million people who bought the console just threw it into the next trash can or what was the point of their purchase?

And the Kinect actually is some sort of issue. Yes, they say you can turn it off in the menu, but you cant simply unplug it. As long as you cant unplug it and still use the console, youll have a possible security lack. A huge one. Its a simple task for people who want it to abuse the camera and let the user think its turned off. Not saying Microsoft would do it, but there are plenty of guys who would. Including the NSA. That damn thing even has a night vision and can scan your heartbeat. That goes a little too far.

Also I dont accept that I have to pay for something I would never use. Its completely useless as I dont want to dance in front of my TV.

About the online pass: EA announced that they wont use it anymore a few weeks ago, has nothing to do with the recent Xbox announcement.
because this stuff you said dosnt matter.
I think a lot of it actually matters.
-TV features not available outside of the USA, I think many non Americans will care about that because it takes away the "Entertainment" in "Entertainment system"
-Cant run old games due to a different architecture, but Sony is at least trying to stream old games (well in the USA first, but said theyll also do it in Europe later). So there goes your "all in one" system. Its not.
-Cant change the HDD. Enjoy 500GB for the next 5 or more years, Penguin would need more for his porn alone in just 2 months. And if that HDD would be damaged, you cant just change it. If the warranty is over you had to buy a new console instead of a new HDD.
-Kinect as mentioned above does matter
-The hardware is a little worse
-Its more expensive.

Now tell me, what exactly does the Xbox have that would make it dominate the console market? All they did was getting closer to Sony, but they still got a long way to go if they actually want to be as successfull with it as with the 360. they sold as many console as Sony did this generation, but for the next one, I predict that it will be more like 30-40% Xbox and 60-70% PS4.

Summary: Xbox doesnt have any advantage over the PS4 yet (except for ESPN in the US). Hardware, price, privacy... The list goes on and on.

And the games dont count, they are a matter of taste. For example Titanfall wouldnt make me buy the new Xbox but it might be a reason for others. So thats nothing you can actually compare with facts. The things above are...
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this is so cringe worthy lol beyond compare sorry but like i said to iron before come back in a year and il be sitting waitin to tell you "I told you so" because one thing ive learnt about these forums theres not many people that know what console gaming is about there all into pc gaming im talking to people that maybe play an hour of console games once a week if there lucky.

Ive owned every single console since gameboy played every single console since gameboy and lived and breathed this shit since then

this is the order of it atm

Xbox one - PS4 - Xbox 360 - wii - Ps3 - nintendo ds - wii u

Anybody that says differnt bout at least the first 3 needs to seriously understand the console gaming world not sit and pretend they know because they played a halo or a pokemon game one time.

And yes nobody plays the wii ask ten people that has it ask them if they play it much and then come back here and say Firetrap you were right lmao

Peace out noobs See you next year on this topic to tell you i told you so.

oh and btw dont think i dont respect your decisions because i do... everyone has there own opinion and there entitled to that but when its wrong like the facts are out there to prove it wrong then i will tell you that your wrong
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