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BFBC2 - Dedicated Server but only from Dice!

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Im Oktober 2009 vermeldete Karl-Magnus Troedsson, der ausführende Produzent des Ego-Shooters Battlefield: Bad Company 2 noch vollmundig über den Kurznachrichtendienst Twitter (wir berichteten), dass der Shooter auf jeden Fall Dedicated Server unterstützt. Während diese Aussage an sich nicht falsch ist, stellt sie doch nicht die ganze Wahrheit dar: Es werden nämlich keinen beliebigen Server genutzt werden können, sondern nur offizielle von Dice unterstützte, die Spieler anmieten können.

Dies berichtet die Seite eurogamer.net und hat auch eine Stellungnahme vom Produzenten Gordon Van Dyke zu diesem Thema: Dies geschehe, um die »Sicherheit des Titels auf dem PC zu schützen. Dice verdient daran [an den Servern; Anm.d.A] nichts.« Das Studio habe aber bereits in allen wichtigen Gebieten Hostpartner ausgewählt, sodass alle Interessenten in ihrem Gebiet einen Server mieten könnten.

Doch was bedeutet diese Ankündigung für die Moding-Community, denn in der Vergangenheit war der Zugang zu einem eigenen Dedicated Server Grundvoraussetzung für Mods. Von Dice gibt es bisher noch keine Stellungnahme dazu, wie man mit diese Frage verfährt.
As reported in October 2009, Karl-Magnus Troedsson, the executive producer of the first person shooter Battlefield: Bad Company 2 more full-bodied on the short message service Twitter (as reported) that the shooter will definitely support Dedicated Servers. While this statement itself is not wrong, they do not constitute the whole truth: There are in fact not have any server can be used, but only officially supported by Dice, can be leased by the players.

This tells the page eurogamer.net and also has a statement from producer, Gordon Van Dyke about this topic: This is done to protect the "security of the title on the PC. Dice deserves it [the servers; Anm.dA] nothing. "The studio had already been selected, but in all important areas Hostpartner, so that all interested parties could rent a server in their area.

But what does this announcement for the Moding community, because in the past, access to its own dedicated server was a prerequisite for mods. From Dice, there is as yet no opinion as to how to deal with this issue.
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This does seriously suck. One more reason to forget a division for TX.
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Well your Headline is entirely wrong.
Only hosters who are certefied by DICE will be allowed to put up servers, not DICE themselves.
It may be possible for Vash to obtain such a permission, but i would not know how.
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Ridley wrote:Only hosters who are certefied by DICE will be allowed to put up servers, not DICE themselves.
Where is the difference? It will be as shitty as the "ranked" server bullshit, like we saw in Battlefield 2 and 2142. Only "official partners" were able to host "ranked" servers. Now, the same shit is happening with Bad Company 2, but even worser.

You will need pay $$$$$ for a license which would allow you to host "certified" servers. And since it's that expensive, only the biggest server providers get those licenses and will able to sell them for $$$$$.

Short: forget it.
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so no div ? x)
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ÀlmÒš†™ wrote:so no div ? x)
no ranked tx server, but maybe we wont need a ranked server
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wtf is a ranked server .. ^^' :ops:
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There will be no other resolution. If Vash says there is no solution there is no. So let´s forget this Division. Search a new Division Game. This won´t work on this way. Too bad. We can´t achive anything without a Server.
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Varactyl wrote:no ranked tx server, but maybe we wont need a ranked server
No, you got it wrong. That means no TX server at all, since you can't even host an unranked server. There won't be any server software I could install on my rootserver.... that means: If you want a server, you have to rent one from an official provider for $$$$.
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Or the ones that want a Div really badly need to donate money to buy a licence, which is highly unlikely
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Ridley wrote:Or the ones that want a Div really badly need to donate money to buy a licence, which is highly unlikely
You still didn't understand: I can't even buy a license. First it's way too expensive, second Dice only chooses the biggest game hosters.
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Auch bleibt abzuwarten, ob es sich um eine Dauerlösung handelt, denn auch für Battlefield 2 konnten Anfangs nur Server bei ausgewählten Anbietern gemietet werden, was sich nach einiger Zeit änderte.
Vash wrote:First it's way too expensive, second Dice only chooses the biggest game hosters.
Gordon van Dyke - Produzent von Bad Company 2 - sagt, das werde gemacht um die Sicherheit des Titels auf dem PC zu schützen. DICE verdiene daran nichts.
Sprich es geht nicht darum wieviel ein Serverhoster an Dice bezahlt um die Lizenz zu erhalten sondern wie vertrauenswürdig sie erscheinen, also wäre es eventuell möglich einen Server zu einem akzeptabelen Preis zu mieten.

Nähere Preise sind nicht bekannt, folglich ist es schwachsinning nun darüber zu diskutieren -ohne Fakten.
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Ironhide wrote:Sprich es geht nicht darum wieviel ein Serverhoster an Dice bezahlt um die Lizenz zu erhalten sondern wie vertrauenswürdig sie erscheinen
Und das glaubst Du? Wenn Du wüsstest, wie das damals bei BF 2 und BF2142 zuging, würdest Du mir glauben, dass das quasi ein Ding der Unmöglichkeit ist.

Ich schätze desweiteren eine solche Lizenz auf mehrere Hundert, wenn nicht mehr als Tausend Euro. Das machen nur die größten Serverhoster, die damit viel Umsatz machen wollen.
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Vash wrote:
Ridley wrote:Or the ones that want a Div really badly need to donate money to buy a licence, which is highly unlikely
You still didn't understand: I can't even buy a license. First it's way too expensive, second Dice only chooses the biggest game hosters.
Genau wegen dem Preis habe ich doch geschrieben, dass es seeeehr unwarscheinlich sein wird
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Vash wrote:
Ironhide wrote:Sprich es geht nicht darum wieviel ein Serverhoster an Dice bezahlt um die Lizenz zu erhalten sondern wie vertrauenswürdig sie erscheinen
Und das glaubst Du?
Ich glaube noch gar nichts, ausser, dass man noch nichts hunderprozentiges über den Erbwerb der Lizenzen weiß. Solange darf spekuliert werden, aber Entscheidungen sollten erst zu einem späteren Zeitpunkt getroffen werden.
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